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can boehner get there if that's the case? >> if you look at eliminations of deductions, exemptions, credits, it doesn't get to you where we need to comply with the budget control act so the fact that we are examining an opportunity to perhaps look at either on higher income earners, whether it's $1 million or higher as opposed to marrying ourselves to 250 is a step in the right direction. i think the fact that there is discussion on this front initiated by the speaker and behind closed doors we'll get in detail. for the first time we're close and why throw away the opportunity. >> can i just mention how many jokes joe would have made about being behind closeds doors and consummating and that whole thing and that's why joe needs to be on the show and he's not. i'm doing a poor job that he would have made seven or eight jokes would have been made. let me just ask jared, the 39.6 in my mind seems like it is a bottom line, a starting point an an end point for the president. can you envision a deal being done on the fiscal cliff t
can boehner get there if that's the case? >> if you look at eliminations of deductions, exemptions, credits, it doesn't get to you where we need to comply with the budget control act so the fact that we are examining an opportunity to perhaps look at either on higher income earners, whether it's $1 million or higher as opposed to marrying ourselves to 250 is a step in the right direction. i think the fact that there is discussion on this front initiated by the speaker and behind closed...
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. >> if you saw a headline, boehner-obama to agree to long-term solution, you would hit buy first on com? >> we no longer have to worry about rising above? >> i think we'll see that as a joke. >> only up 3% to 5% between now and tuesday. that's not their focus. >> i understand. >> but remember when germany went down, when the german forces went down. those are countries that are dominated by rich people. a lot of those companies are plutocrasies. i think when their market went down, they said holy cow, maybe we ought to do something, maybe monty ought to get together, our country t.a.r.p., that first vote, i think people said, okay, i'm going to have to work the rest of my life, there goes my 401(k) and the congressmen rise above. i hope it doesn't take that. i hope it didn't. >> we do have some media news today, viacom is out with some numbers. >> viacom is not as bad as i had feared. the market numbers down about 6% for the company which is perhaps a little bit better than might have been expected. if you take a look over the last few weeks has been down somewhat dramatically. look
. >> if you saw a headline, boehner-obama to agree to long-term solution, you would hit buy first on com? >> we no longer have to worry about rising above? >> i think we'll see that as a joke. >> only up 3% to 5% between now and tuesday. that's not their focus. >> i understand. >> but remember when germany went down, when the german forces went down. those are countries that are dominated by rich people. a lot of those companies are plutocrasies. i think when...
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and boehner, speaker john boehner, spoke today and said, wait, just cool your jets. we've got a lot of negotiating to do. they're not going to let that happen. but the stock market may be telling us that the house in checkmate will wind up with a recession from the fiscal cliff. in other words, no deal making means bad recession. is that a scenario -- is that what the market's telling us? >> i think you're dead on. if you look at what's happened, real incomes have fallen much more during the recovery than they did during the preceding recession. 4.8% down versus 2.7% down. unemployment is higher now than when the president first took office. what's made people feel good is a rising stock market. they felt wealthier. now with all these big tax increases coming on on capital gains and dividends, people don't feel that anymore. the significance of this poll, larry, is it's the first poll taken after the election. and the rhetoric has been very strong, also from harry reid. remember, when it looked like romney might win, he said there's going to be in reaching across the
and boehner, speaker john boehner, spoke today and said, wait, just cool your jets. we've got a lot of negotiating to do. they're not going to let that happen. but the stock market may be telling us that the house in checkmate will wind up with a recession from the fiscal cliff. in other words, no deal making means bad recession. is that a scenario -- is that what the market's telling us? >> i think you're dead on. if you look at what's happened, real incomes have fallen much more during...
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boehner are accurate, the dems are moving away from that. the president and the democrats seem to be moving away from that. why do you think that is, and is this important? >> let's assume for a second the president is right and we need $1.5 trillion of revenue. now, i think there's a better way to get there and a different way to get there. the president, you know, i think is open to some of these ideas. but if we're going to have $1.5 trillion worth of revenue, we need about $3.5 trillion worth of real spending cuts. that would come from defense. it would come from entitlement programs. it would come from the other mandatory programs. that's what makes the most sense to take it from because those are the areas that are really growing at an accelerated rate, faster than the rate of growth of health care. i think that's doable. i think we can find the votes to do that because i think the american people are way ahead of the politicians. they realize we got a real problem in this country and we got to fix it. >> what do you think, senator? i
boehner are accurate, the dems are moving away from that. the president and the democrats seem to be moving away from that. why do you think that is, and is this important? >> let's assume for a second the president is right and we need $1.5 trillion of revenue. now, i think there's a better way to get there and a different way to get there. the president, you know, i think is open to some of these ideas. but if we're going to have $1.5 trillion worth of revenue, we need about $3.5...
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john boehner initially said, listen, president, it's time fur to lead. that's what you saw in that press conference, the president saying look at the map, look at my victory and get what and, oh, yeah, guess what, i've won. >> we've officially renamed the fiscal cliff the fiscal curb. it's a little step down and you keep taking the steps so by the time you goat march or april, there's something significant happening but not right away. but there's a tricky thing here. both sides want to call it a cliff because both sides need drama in order to drive the urgency of their position but i'm wondering if at some point the president doesn't soften this as we get into late december and start to say to people, well, on the first week of january, you're going u just going to see a little step. and we will have time to fix it retroactively. >> i think that's probably what you will hear. i think ultimately this is going to be some kind of compromise. the fiscal cliff, it would be about $6 hup billion worth of tax cuts. i think it is going to be softened. there are
john boehner initially said, listen, president, it's time fur to lead. that's what you saw in that press conference, the president saying look at the map, look at my victory and get what and, oh, yeah, guess what, i've won. >> we've officially renamed the fiscal cliff the fiscal curb. it's a little step down and you keep taking the steps so by the time you goat march or april, there's something significant happening but not right away. but there's a tricky thing here. both sides want to...
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that's going to stay john boehner. they're actually fighting for the number four job in the house. the contest was tom price against one of the precious few republican women in the house, cathy mcmorris rodgers. and there were some interesting politics at work here. miss mcmorris rodgers had the support of speaker john boehner, but tom price had the support of this guy, the republican party's vice presidential nominee, paul ryan. in the end, it was cathy mcmorris rodgers who won. paul ryan's guy lost. and so even as they lose the presidency, thanks to a devastating gender gap in the polls, and at the same time they send even fewer republican women to congress than were there before, republicans did today pick for this small, low-profile national republican number four leadership role an actual woman. and that's the best they've ever done. that's the highest ranking gop woman there has ever been in the house. back over on the senate side, republicans are faced with a dilemma set up for them by john mccain, as i was just discussing with bill burton. john mccain is suggesting that the
that's going to stay john boehner. they're actually fighting for the number four job in the house. the contest was tom price against one of the precious few republican women in the house, cathy mcmorris rodgers. and there were some interesting politics at work here. miss mcmorris rodgers had the support of speaker john boehner, but tom price had the support of this guy, the republican party's vice presidential nominee, paul ryan. in the end, it was cathy mcmorris rodgers who won. paul ryan's...
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boehner had agreed to $800 billion. it's not hard to find $1.2 trillion as a kind of middle ground to that. then you want to have $4 trillion of total deficit reduction, so that leaves $2.8 trillion of spending reductions that have to happen. here's what people miss. we can avoid going over the cliff with the stroke of a pen. they can just extend all this stuff and kick the can down the road. the real question is are we going to have a big deal? are we going to agree on the major spending restraints that we need as well as the tax stuff in order to actually get the deficit under control? and i think the betting on that is less than 50%. i think we have a great shot at it. but it's going to be really, really hard. >> is that the view from wall street, too? they're not totally confident that this is going to happen? >> what you see in the stock market at the moment is that wall street is not totally confident. that's for sure. >> all right. steve, thanks so much. >> pleasure. >>> coming up, independent senator-elect of ma
boehner had agreed to $800 billion. it's not hard to find $1.2 trillion as a kind of middle ground to that. then you want to have $4 trillion of total deficit reduction, so that leaves $2.8 trillion of spending reductions that have to happen. here's what people miss. we can avoid going over the cliff with the stroke of a pen. they can just extend all this stuff and kick the can down the road. the real question is are we going to have a big deal? are we going to agree on the major spending...
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speaker boehner sounding somewhat optimistic. the president says that he is even open to some good ideas from republicans. he said he will not slam the door in their faces. but, again, the bottom line, the president not wanting these bush era tax cuts to be extended to wealthy americans, soledad. >> dan lothian for us this morning. before i let you go, let's talk about susan rice. obviously, you know, we see the president pretty angry, curious might be a good we to describe it, too, in defending her. how do you think that's going to end up? >> reporter: that's right. it was a very full throated defense from the president, something we've not heard from him up to this point. the president sort of making the point here if you want to attack anyone, attack me. and calling the attacks from republicans, in particular, senator john mccain, who has been going after ambassador rice because he believes that the narrative that she told shortly after those attacks as they turned out not to be the case and he wants to know why. he said we're
speaker boehner sounding somewhat optimistic. the president says that he is even open to some good ideas from republicans. he said he will not slam the door in their faces. but, again, the bottom line, the president not wanting these bush era tax cuts to be extended to wealthy americans, soledad. >> dan lothian for us this morning. before i let you go, let's talk about susan rice. obviously, you know, we see the president pretty angry, curious might be a good we to describe it, too, in...
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or is it john boehner who is going to stop that? >> caller: you see, it's hard to read right now. i think there was somewhat of an acknowledgment by everyone in the house that everybody spoke for that fairness for the middle class. that statement that it appearing to be universally popular i believe is on target, and i would hope we can go forward and do that piece, do that tax cut for the middle class and continue to work away at other pieces. >> stephanie: right, well congressman tonko i guess i want to get your take on this. we've heard a lot so far--first of all, it seems that they're feigning yeah, yeah, we're going to compromise, but either it's mitt romney plan for some other tangent for the rich. and they've suggested going over the clip. i'm reading this piece from reuters saying that that could butt levels to where they were in the 90s and they might agree to to a tax deal. there is obviously feeling on both sides. corporate america, but what do you--i know patty murray, dick turban and others have put that out there. do you think we're going to get to that. >> i prefer
or is it john boehner who is going to stop that? >> caller: you see, it's hard to read right now. i think there was somewhat of an acknowledgment by everyone in the house that everybody spoke for that fairness for the middle class. that statement that it appearing to be universally popular i believe is on target, and i would hope we can go forward and do that piece, do that tax cut for the middle class and continue to work away at other pieces. >> stephanie: right, well congressman...
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house speaker john boehner seems optimistic about these negotiations. >> we can all imagine a scenario where we go off the fiscal cliff. if, if despite the election, if despite the dangers of going over the fiscal cliff and what that means for our economy that there's too much stubbornness in congress that we can't even agree on giving middle class family as tax cut, then, middle class families will all end up having a big tax hike. >> there are no barriers here to sitting down and beginning to work through this process. i don't think anyone on either side of the aisle underestimates the difficulty that faces us. but i do think that the spirit of cooperation that you have seen over the last week from myself and my team, from democrats across the aisle, from the president, have created an atmosphere where i think that, i'm, remain optimistic. i was born with a glass half-full. if i hadn't been i sure wouldn't be here. jon: so let's get to it. how close are we to the edge of that fiscal cliff? marjorie clifton, a former consultant to the obama campaign and principle with clifton consulti
house speaker john boehner seems optimistic about these negotiations. >> we can all imagine a scenario where we go off the fiscal cliff. if, if despite the election, if despite the dangers of going over the fiscal cliff and what that means for our economy that there's too much stubbornness in congress that we can't even agree on giving middle class family as tax cut, then, middle class families will all end up having a big tax hike. >> there are no barriers here to sitting down and...
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the answer at this point is likely no because even the top republican in congress, house speaker john boehner yesterday threw cold water on it saying he doesn't think it's necessary and the top democrat in the senate says the same thing, and others, as well. i have to tell you something that just happened on capitol hill, and that is our senate producer ted barrett just ran into john mccain and asked about something that we're hearing from democrats, which is john mccain is calling for more information to congress, but he had a press conference yesterday instead of going to a closed briefing where administration officials were giving more information. well, ted barrett asked john mccain about that, and it was apparently an intense very angry exchange and mccain simply would not comment on it at all. >> so this is just getting uglier and uglier, at least more passionate, shall we say, dana bash. >> absolutely. >> thanks so much. >>> the gop republicans struggling with its party identity after losing the presidential election last tuesday and it's not just pundits trying to figure out why the r
the answer at this point is likely no because even the top republican in congress, house speaker john boehner yesterday threw cold water on it saying he doesn't think it's necessary and the top democrat in the senate says the same thing, and others, as well. i have to tell you something that just happened on capitol hill, and that is our senate producer ted barrett just ran into john mccain and asked about something that we're hearing from democrats, which is john mccain is calling for more...
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. >> deirdre walton, cnn, since the elections john boehner has been talking about what to negotiate a deal on the fiscal cliff and says he is open to new revenue and willingness to compromise. i was wondering what you think of his position on this, and if you are right to support him this afternoon? >> i do not know if you are here earlier when i spoke about the 10-1 deal. i want to see where they are willing to cut. olive heard is that the democrats are saying they are not willing to cut anything in. the president had a meeting last night with the labor unions, all of these separate liberal groups. and everyone of those groups to the president that he should not deliver anything on a reforms of our entitlement system, but you should insure the delivers a tax increase. i do not think they are open- minded in any way. i think we need to stop negotiating with ourselves. and we need to wait for the democrats to actually give us an offer that is a real serious offer. we need to stop speaking amongst ourselves. he won the presidency, let him lead. >> i believe that revenue is important par
. >> deirdre walton, cnn, since the elections john boehner has been talking about what to negotiate a deal on the fiscal cliff and says he is open to new revenue and willingness to compromise. i was wondering what you think of his position on this, and if you are right to support him this afternoon? >> i do not know if you are here earlier when i spoke about the 10-1 deal. i want to see where they are willing to cut. olive heard is that the democrats are saying they are not willing...
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i'd like to thank speaker boehner, majority leader cantor, majority whip mccarthy, democratic leader pelosi, democratic whip hoyer, house foreign affairs committee chairwoman ileana ros-lehtinen, and ranking member, mr. berman of california, as well as mr. levin who has been so very helpful on the ways and means committee for all their support in drafting the bill under consideration by the house this week. it has been a pleasure to work with all these individuals. mr. speaker, as i have said i believe the magnitsky provisions are strong, flexible enough to be well implemented, and allow us to have a cooperative relationship with russia on trade and other issues while holding human rights violators, including those responsible for the brutal treatment and death of sergei magnitsky accountable. as i stated earlier i would not be supporting pntr for the russian federation if this bill did not include the sergei magnitsky rule of law accountability act. mr. speaker, i agree with what has been said about the importance of increased trade in terms of promoting more positive reforms in cou
i'd like to thank speaker boehner, majority leader cantor, majority whip mccarthy, democratic leader pelosi, democratic whip hoyer, house foreign affairs committee chairwoman ileana ros-lehtinen, and ranking member, mr. berman of california, as well as mr. levin who has been so very helpful on the ways and means committee for all their support in drafting the bill under consideration by the house this week. it has been a pleasure to work with all these individuals. mr. speaker, as i have said i...